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MrGuildBoi · Jun 29, 2008, 05:06 AM // 05:06

Aside from farming, is there any reason to make an assassin for PvE? Is it fun to assassinate monsters or will they all target you as soon as you shadow step in? (assuming you are in a party)

RavagerOfDreams · Jun 29, 2008, 05:27 AM // 05:27

depends on what build you run. BTW most assassins chose not to run the whole instagib thing in PVE (unless combined with [Assassins Promise]). I had fun with my sin when i played him but the game is really only as fun as you make it ^_______________^

as for the whole shadow step thing no they dont rape you preprotting is fun

Konig Des Todes · Jun 29, 2008, 05:30 AM // 05:30

Assassins can work in PvE, however you must keep two things in mind to not die a lot.

1) Assassins are NOT Tanks (still don't get why people think that they are).

2) Most spike builds do NOT work in PvE. Imo, shadow stepping is an overall bad idea, at least for a starter assassin (rather low armor and people who can't shadow step right end up going out of the monk's range and dying due to lack of healing).

Keep those things in mind and you should do fine.

Rhamia Darigaz · Jun 29, 2008, 05:33 AM // 05:33

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

1) Assassins are NOT Tanks (still don't get why people think that they are).

[glyph of swiftness][deadly paradox][shadow form] <--- i think that's why people think they can be tanks: its true

FlamingMetroid · Jun 29, 2008, 05:57 AM // 05:57

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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz

[glyph of swiftness][deadly paradox][shadow form] <--- i think that's why people think they can be tanks: its true

no, its because most new sins have the "ZOMG IZ A NINJA!1!1!one!!" mentality

assassins in PvE involve spamming [death blossom]and[moebius strike] to produce AoE butthurt

Bowstring Badass · Jun 29, 2008, 06:01 AM // 06:01

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Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid

no, its because most new sins have the "ZOMG IZ A NINJA!1!1!one!!" mentality

assassins in PvE involve spamming [death blossom]and[moebius strike] to produce AoE butthurt

Wasn't this the case when factions came out.

Anyway death blossom+moebius strike is superior in PvE then instagib for certain reasons.

Rhamia Darigaz · Jun 29, 2008, 06:10 AM // 06:10

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Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid

no, its because most new sins have the "ZOMG IZ A NINJA!1!1!one!!" mentality

assassins in PvE involve spamming [death blossom]and[moebius strike] to produce AoE butthurt

i feel quite AoE butthurt that you disagree with meh

Konig Des Todes · Jun 29, 2008, 08:28 AM // 08:28

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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz

[glyph of swiftness][deadly paradox][shadow form] <--- i think that's why people think they can be tanks: its true

Please note a few things:

1. I was talking about NEW assassins, and that's ineffective until your able to put 12 into Shadow Arts.
2. You need Nightfall and Eye of the North skills.
3. That's for farming, not Tanking. If your using that to tank in any ol' place, you WILL end up fighting enemies with skills to go past Shadow Form.

Super Igor · Jun 29, 2008, 10:15 AM // 10:15

As long as you dont tank or shadow step wayyyyyy away from the party you would pwn faces.

Bobby2 · Jun 29, 2008, 01:35 PM // 13:35

Who's shadow stepping in PvE?

Darkpower Alchemist · Jun 29, 2008, 02:21 PM // 14:21

[skill]Critical Agility[/skill]

A sin that isn't trying to farm's best friend. As a normal frontline operative, this should be the IAS of choice for a sin in PvE. Easily maintained and boosts armor,too. This is the best skill ANet has made for the assassin class,imho.

If the armor insignias are implemented correctly, the sin's armor is compareable to a Paragon, thanks to CA. That's nothing to sneeze at.

White Lies · Jun 29, 2008, 07:50 PM // 19:50

Sins arnt just for farming. Hell when i got factions (1st game i got) i looked at the sin, thought they looked pretty neat and have bn playing 1 ever since. I found out the hard way sins r NOT for tanking. just play them like you wud a ranger (thats hw i do it now :P): keep killing stuff until it ur hp starts looking the tinciest bit risky, scream and kite like a maniac, heal up and rip thru sumore stuff. use the IAS mentioned by Darkpower, and then ur cooking with a steelbladed killing machine.
Hope it made sense, im not vry gd at all this putting my ideas on2 paper thing

~Lies

Tom Swift · Jun 29, 2008, 11:55 PM // 23:55

I really enjoy playing the sin more than any other profession in the game. I don't know why. It just seems more challenging and more satisfying than the others.

fireflyry · Jun 30, 2008, 12:42 AM // 00:42

I would suggest reading the forums more OP.

Your answer is already there.

AshenX · Jun 30, 2008, 04:33 AM // 04:33

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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz

[glyph of swiftness][deadly paradox][shadow form] <--- i think that's why people think they can be tanks: its true

Nah, People tried tanking on sins waaaaay before deadly paradox and glyph of swiftness hit the scene. Within a week of factions coming out sins were pariahs throughout GW because everyone had learned that a sin tryinig to tank would use up all of your monks energy. On the other hand a sin makes a great hit and run skirmisher. Just dont try to play like a warrior and youll be fine.

High Moral · Jul 01, 2008, 01:13 AM // 01:13

Before, I didnt see assassin as good in PVE at all, until I made one myself.
The mobeius spammer build is REALLY.

Throw in , critical agility, critical eyes, Save yourself and I like Assassins Remedy. And you are pretty much SET! you just have to cast your buffs up when the rest storm. That makes you arrive alitle later.

faraaz · Jul 01, 2008, 06:15 AM // 06:15

Here's why Assassins are good in PvE:

1 -> Moebius + Death Blossom Spam
2 -> Maxed Crit Strikes with Way of the Master on ANY weapon..its insane!

This second point is the reason I love Assassins to death, and it takes them beyond the meh category.

[build;OwJjkxfzITLiDQ6PxZfh4aqG7aA] (Take Crit Agility instead of Crit Defenses if using this on a human player. The build code is what my heroes are using. Try this out on Zenmai...you'll be amazed!

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[build;OwpiMypMtIWDOAp/IDCgFmBdBA]

[build;OwFiMxjMtIWDq/IWEWsDi9dVAA]

These are just a few ideas mind you, you could probably find more ways of exploiting the uber leetness that is Critical Strikes

So yes...Assassin's are VERY viable in PvE. You just have to think out of the box.

And Shadow Stepping even with pre protting is a pain to manage effectively in PvE..I'd only do it if you are REALLY gung ho about the whole "chills n thrills" gameplay.

High Moral · Jul 01, 2008, 06:23 AM // 06:23

There gotta be some REALLY good a/p builds with spears and both
Way of the Master and Way of the assassin.

Anyone have a build they would like to share?

RavagerOfDreams · Jul 01, 2008, 06:29 AM // 06:29

Way of the Master + Way of the Sin are redundant when used together. It's more effective to use a different elite such as [dark apostasy] or [stunning strike].

However if thats what you really have your heart set on ill give you a build

[way of the assassin] [way of the master] [vicious attack] [critical agility] [swift javelin] [Spear of Lightning] and your two optionals could be anything you want really [critical defenses] is nice or [wild throw] to remove stances or [assassins remedy] to prevent blind or other debilitating conditions.

Azza · Jul 01, 2008, 06:32 AM // 06:32

to be Smart, cast Recall on ur healer before Death Charging into battle step in do a mass amount of damage(wich the tank now should be in holding aggro), recall will end u'll be pulled out of damage zone, and u can repeat, it also help in the Rotscale Vanquish, when need to kill everything around rotscale(a propper sin wont die while doing this)...Sins can serve many [purposes, like say if there more then 1 healer in an enemy group a sin can shadow step in kill it and be out back near the group ready for the next target...Sins are really usefull in PvE just not many people can play a PvE sin without trying to be a tank O.o